Salt Water Flow Cell Car Gets European Approval

This is better 🙂

http://humansarefree.com/2014/03/this-car-consumes-8-grams-of-fuel-100.html

Awesome, when will it be ready for production and how much will it cost?

Wow that is what we need right there to maybe save the planet. The only Problem is, GM and Ford will put up a fight. No re-charge, salt water not fresh, I mean come on.

It doesn’t get energy from salt water, it gets it from the electric power plant that more likely burns oil or coal. It has no moving parts, so how does the motor spin?

*faints*

“Electrolyte flow cell technology has been around for decades, but it wasn’t until recently that certain car manufacturers were given the permission to start building cars that
run on electrolyte flow cell technology.”
I am confused by being “given the permission” part. I wonder who or what granted this mystical permission.

We really need a lot more detailed data regarding the specifications of these Nano flow cells as well as the so called “super capacitors”.

I WANT ONE RIGHT NOW!!
CAN WE ALSO HEAT AND COOL HOUSES WITH IT??

Illusions Only and the fact that the car has those performances makes my suspiscious

Yes please – we can only hope that this is the way forward, and the oil companies and powers that be do not try to put a leash on this kind of idea and implementation – we could ALL benefit from this globally, let alone just the european populace

This is outrageous performance! The single biggest hold down to electric cars is of course their range, with the second being the ability of even the newest batteries to supply enough current to the drive motors. Capacitors are capable of dumping their entire load in milliseconds if the motors wanted/could handle it. That’s why there is such extreme torque. 2139PF – WOW. That’s more torque then your average Freightliner
semi makes. And because it’s electric, full torque availability starts at 0 rpm.
My only concern is safety. As the capacitors can supply such mega current, if there is a wreck and the + and – terminals manage to get shorted by something metal there WILL be one heck of a flash and explosion. Much akin to a high line explosion on a telephone pole.
I’m not knocking this breakthrough at all, and would give body parts to own one of these hot rods. I was just stating one thought in the back of my twisted mind…

The Salt water are Vanadium salts, Vanadium compounds are considered toxic. The battery is produced by big mining companies, who also happen to mine for Uranium too.

“All vanadium compounds should be considered toxic. Tetravalent VOSO4 has been reported to be over 5 times more toxic than trivalent V2O3.[73] The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set an exposure limit of 0.05 mg/m3 for vanadium pentoxide dust and 0.1 mg/m3 for vanadium pentoxide fumes in workplace air for an 8-hour workday, 40-hour work week.[74] The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) has recommended that 35 mg/m3
of vanadium be considered immediately dangerous to life and health.
This is the exposure level of a chemical that is likely to cause
permanent health problems or death.[74]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanadium#Mammals_and_birds

This car is not powered by saltwater. It runs on PEOPLE! It’s why they started Obama care! Death Panels! No more chocolate chip cookies. They ground grandma up. Buy stock in Nabisco! I told a scientist god put the aaawl in the ground, and he said it was dinosaurs. I said my granddads a dinosaur could you run a car offa him? He looked me square in the eye, and said “We already are.” It was bone chillin’. One of these things past me the other day, and the exhaust smelled like old lady perfume and hard candy. Also, the author looks like a school shooter in their photo. The creepy kid next door who use to set shit on fire in the woods out back. Get a haircut you little fuckin’ psychopath!

Ok..now make one that isn’t ugly has hell like the one in the story ….don’t know about you but I don’t need to go 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds and go 200 mph….

Well, anybody ever see the engine that runs on just regular water? And I’m not talking battery power.

I guess the price of saltwater will go to about $4.00/gallon.

It doesn’t run on salt water any more than my Prius runs on lithium. Sounds like it is a FAST electric vehicle! This battery technology needs to be protected and developed; it could be the genesis of an affordable, ubiquitous drive battery.

Do you mind if I quote a few of your posts as long as I provide credit and sources back to your website?
My website is in the exact same niche as yours and my visitors
would really benefit from a lot of the information you present here.
Please let me know if this alright with you. Thanks a lot!

Amusement rides have used a salt water drive as a variable resistor to increase or decrease speed of d/c motors..Although outlawed in most states now they all worked quite good without the electrical power required to run without the salt drive system both require electrical power .I can see where this crossed with tesla could be possible .I question whether it could be compact enough to be useable?

Dear German TÜV Süd:

Congratulations on this product. We sincerely hope this car makes its way into market. But we are also worried, that the Oil companies and Banksters may buy out this company, product and design and get rid off it. It has been speculated that such had happened on the past with Nicola Tesla and another private inventors. The Banksters make more money from Oil, Wars and Pharmacies. Please merge with Tesla Group and open your plants all over Asia.

Why didn’t you post my previous comment that explained that this car does not ‘run on saltwater?’

The comment is below:

This is not a car powered by saltwater. Either the author is deliberately misleading us for clicks, or he didn’t bother to do any research at all. I don’t understand why people call themselves Journalists anymore when they just copy and paste stuff that they want to believe, instead of doing actual journalism.

I did some “major research” on this, i.e., I used Bing (not even Google) to search for “Quant e-Sportlimousine” and found an article from March about the car and the fuel cell. Here is a link to the article and a link to a YouTube video explaining how the battery works. It is an electric car that needs charging with a different battery technology. They say, “while the battery is being charged… .” Not once in the article do they mention the word “saltwater.”

www DOT autoblog DOT com/2014/03/05/quant-e-sportlimousine-video-geneva-2014/ youtu DOT be/0Uk0GQNgtqg (replacing the DOTs with a period, needless to say)

The author states that his title is “Director of Exposing The Truth”, but it seems it should be “Lazy Director of Misleading the Public.” Your site has the word “Intelligent” in it, and your title has “Truth.” What where you thinking?

http://www.gizmag.com/900-hp-supercar-flow-battery/31091/

Bill,

Come on fella, quit going on about nothing for gods sake. Do you realise how petty and insignificant the one simple fact you are harping on about looks?

Gte a grip and enjoy the remote possibility that we may all one dy enjoy a world with no petrol/oil and peanut butter.

Enzo Ferrari from the grave.

This is amazing! Where can I find more information about this technology?

I hate to be a wet blanket, but this could mean that 100 years from now we will have a serious desalination problem to go along with the pollution in our oceans. I hope I’m wrong.

This to me is an incredibly terrible idea… sucking oceans dry globally so you can drive around is a really idiotic notion. If it’s purely to charge a fuel cell or battery there are FAR BETTER and much more kinder ways to do so. SEE Joe Holden, Micro Hydro.

ALSO people need to get a grip on reality. all the money spent on this newer technology needs to start with reverse engineering and COMMON SENSE. Bottom line, zero or close to zero impact environmentally on all fronts.

This is an asinine waste of time and money.

It sounds like this car does not run on salt water, it runs on electricity. The salt water sounds like it is marly part of the ‘battery’, not the energy source. The website talks of charging the electrolyte (assuming google translate was correct!)

Check out the website. They say they are using a flow cell battery to create electricity. The salt water is probably not the same salt water you would find in the ocean (different salts). They also state that it would be filled with the electrolytes via a hose. This would mean that it would likely have two fuel tanks (anolyte and catholyte). An obvious problems is how you create the anolyte and catholyte, transport and store it. If it is to be a viable fuel, we would have to standardize the fuel we are using (now we use diesel, gasoline, propane, natural gas) and there are many different flow battery chemistries out there.

I’d like to believe in this technology, they’re not specific enough about how the system works to have real faith in it.

If they do have the technology and it can be mass-produced and introduced into the market in a short time horizon, I’d be rather enthusiastic about it.

Give me a product I can actually buy and I’ll be impressed. I want to be impressed but I’ve read a lot on the internet and I’ve learned to be really skeptical about claims made but products not delivered.

Holy Gatorade Batman!

It won’t be able to be used here because of oil company interests which is a shame because the world needs to get away from oil looks like a very good car

The following article seem to have actual numbers and technical explanations.
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2014/03/20140305-quant.html

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Nonsense. this car does nor run on salt water. It uses an electrolytic flow cell battery that must be recharged from a power source, just like every other electric car. You sir, are a douche nozzle.

Finally a working Flux Capacitor .

Did they send this press release directly to you, Aaron?

This is not a car powered by saltwater. Either the author is deliberately misleading us for clicks, or he didn’t bother to do any research at all. I don’t understand why people call themselves Journalists anymore when they just copy and paste stuff that they want to believe, instead of doing actual journalism.

I did some “major research” on this, i.e., I used Bing (not even Google) to search for “Quant e-Sportlimousine” and found an article from March about the car and the fuel cell. Here is a link to the article and a link to a YouTube video explaining how the battery works. It is an electric car that needs charging with a different battery technology. They say, “while the battery is being charged… .” Not once in the article do they mention the word “saltwater.”

www DOT autoblog DOT com/2014/03/05/quant-e-sportlimousine-video-geneva-2014/ youtu DOT be/0Uk0GQNgtqg (replacing the DOTs with a period, needless to say)

The author states that his title is “Director of Exposing The Truth”, but it seems it should be “Lazy Director of Misleading the Public.” Your site has the word “Intelligent” in it, and your title has “Truth.” What where you thinking?

Moron:
5 times less than 8 is simply 8 divided by 5 which is 1.6. Also, notice how I spelled Divided? You also got that wrong when spelling division as ‘devision’, moron!
Turn off your modem and your Windows 95 and go have a nappy and leave the rest of us alone. Also, it’s spelled ‘Five’ not ‘ fife’. Oh, and one more, 5 time neg 7 is neg 35. Five times bigger or greater than something of value actually is a quantifiable, measurable amount.
Go away!

Bill mate, are you fucking dreaming? Go back to your blackboard you wise man wannabe

Just like any other wild claim, I’ll assume it’s in theory until an independent review is done.

I don’t see why, considering that they have registered and copyrighted the process, we aren’t given details on how the system operates. Even basic ones.

Also, those HP numbers leave me skeptical at best.

I people just take a look at their site it says it can go up to 600km to date.

Only “problem” I see with this is control of the fluids that is car uses, and that means the cost will not be as low as it should be.

The only car I would be interested in is a car working on hydrogen, where it works with tapwater to sea water. This redox cell system is to complex and as usual makes the consumer dependent on someone, and as usual makes someone rich in the process…

Great article. Fascinating technology.

This is a good article. But the title is somehwhat misleading cuz they only mentioned the cell contents were water, metallic salts and crystalline structures. Sea water fit the criteria but they didnt mention it being similar to sea water. But your article made me want to learn more bout the flow cell. Will share this. But please add the sources for the ‘sea water’ part yeah. Cheers.

This article is a bit short on details. The U.S. Navy is also looking into saltwater power ships. Short on details also, hmm, wonder why? Sounds like science fiction, futuristic babble. Jet fuel from seawater? Before you criticize, analyze. Look it up.

Remember the old saying about something sounding too good to be true…?

Pinch of salt on this one, until they can prove their claims.

Even if this should turn out to be a hoax or there are factors involved that makes it less dramatic than claimed, the big thing is that here’s another story about electric cars moving forward despite the foot-dragging efforts of GM and other “big” car companies.

Other companies, such as Tesla, and even smaller tinkerers are making progress. Sometimes very small steps but incremental ones that will eventually render the ICE for surface transportation obsolete.

Whether there will be other environmental problem from electric vehicles remains to be seen. One I see, although more subtle than CO emissions, is heat pollution. All energy creation and use results in heat . If you consider the effect of the billion or so car in use today the heat output from simply using them is considerable. That isn’t counting the heat from building them and creating their fuel.
Making and charging battery packs might not be much different.

Not a bad Article, however I have the feeling that the rights to this vehicle will be bought by one car company or another, and then shelved until a time when they have no choice but to release it. If that time ever comes.

Never mind the car, I want to run my house on saltwater!
If this were true wouldn’t it utterly destroy the energy industry? Half the worlds richest would suddenly own nothing but millions of barrels of pollutants. XD

Search “Burning Salt Water inventor ” on Youtube. There is definitely energy to harness in salt water.

Burning Salt Water inventor

With that kind of horse power, I hope they plan on putting it on farm tractors.

You all seem to have misunderstood this technologi. The salt water STORES the electrical charge, it doesn’t create it. It’s just a more efficient storage medium (so claimed) as lithium-ion. It’s water-ion. You still charge it up using the power grid after a long drive.

I heard that the aliens are anxious to use this technology in their UFOs!
http://www.blue-planet-project.com/

Bill. You have got to be among the biggest idiots I’ve ever encountered. You dwell on a negligible point, and neglect the overall result and implications. Good God, I hope that when they let you out of your rubber room, that you don’t get hurt tying your shoes. Geesch! How did the human gene pool get so polluted?

I am not sure if it is just a Misunderstanding or a Hoax but there is NO WAY to get Energy from Sea-Water unless you are talking about breaking the water down into Hydrogen to use in a Fuel Cell or maybe to extract Deuterium for a Fusion Reactor (someday)

The article says it runs on salt water but doesn’t explain how. Does it have a “fuel tank” we have to fill with salt water? How many mpg? Does one have to stay near the beach or carry a pot of salt on board?? Great concept if its practical.

Whoever wrote the article can’t even do second grade math. “five times greater” Is that 6 times as great? Notice the round figure!
“My product is 5 times better than brand X”.
Doesn’t mean anything.
First: according to my second grade teacher, “That’s baby talk. We don’t use that any more”. More clearly from a math perspective; it’s an “undefined term”. Like devision by zero. It doesn’t mean anything.
Second: Doesn’t work with all numbers; What’s five times more than zero? What’s fife times more than negative 7? What’s 5 times less than 8?
Third: If you try to define the term “Ten times more than X”, How would you compare it to “Ten times as much as X”?  If we know that X=1 then we know that 5 times as much as X is 5. Then five times more than X is what?
if X=1
then More than x may=9. 5 times more than x = 45
More than x=may = 672. 5 tomes more than x= 3360.
Five times more than anything could be anything.
Get real!